Dry hopping with pellets

[LordEoin]

Howdy folks!

Normally I'd dryhop leaf hops in a muslin bag weighed down with marbles.
There seems to be a lot of variety in available pellet hops at the moment, but generally I find that muslin bags are too coarse for pellets and leak a lot out.
Sometimes I'd throw pelelts in loose and let the chips fall where they may (hopefully down into the trub) but sometimes they don't settle cleanly and end up in the bottle.

Anyway. What can people suggest for cleanly dryhopping in FV using pellets?
I saw THESE empty teabags but they don't ship to Ireland.

[irish_goat]

Empty tae bags from China?

[LordEoin]

i was looking at similar ones and the shipping was rediculous.
those seem to have free shipping but they're tiny. so are their tea balls.

Any other ideas?

[Ciderhead]

Chuck em in and let run free.
Use your autosiphon with tights or in my case micron mesh over the end with a elastic band siphoning from the middle of your fv to secondary after 3 days.

[Joe Rocket]

How about these?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/T-Sac-Tea-Filters-Size-Bags/dp/B0082EM3T2/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1398886472&sr=8-2&keywords=t+sac

Suki sell them in St George's market too. Maybe not big enough?

[Garry]

Don't the Yanks just throw pellets straight into the fv? How do they get away with it? I tried it myself and ended up with bits of hop in the beer too. It was great for head retention though.

[LordEoin]

yeah, I've thrown them in loose many times but you just dont know if you'll get away with it or not.
I always end up slapping the FV every time I pass to get more to settle.

@ garry - great for head retention and gushers

@ CH : I almost never use a syphon, so filtering there is out. but apart from possible clogging issues it's a good idea. i wonder if there's anything i could put in-line on my hose from the tap as a filter

@joe: those are quite small again, and I think they have a flappy-flap instead of actually sealing.

[LordEoin]

why do you dislike dryhopping with pellets tube?

[imark]

I used an old nylon tights in secondary. Make sure you leave plenty of room for expansion and tie a knot. They expand a huge amount.

Wonder about the grassy flavour myself. Or maybe it's just harsher.

[LordEoin]

I've heard of other people using this too. Does tights material keep all the particles in? is it reuseable? who wore them before you?
And fresh J-cloths, probably best to boil them for a while though.

I never had a problem with it being grassy so long as you don't forget they're in there for a few weeks.
Maybe a little harsher alright if you don't scale the quantities back about 25%

[Ciderhead]

Grassy only comes into it if you go over 5 days, current thinking is full profile comes out after 2-3 days.

[imark]

It works well yeah. I am selective about who's tights get used. Don't want any foreign yeasts in there.

Now that you mention it I hadn't been dialing back my dry hop pellets. Was wondering why the beers were a bit disappointing.

[Partridge9]

I have to say, my experience of dry hopping with pellets isnt great.
The hops stay in suspension in some form and the beer isnt as clean.
Dry hopping with leaf a hopbag isnt the end of the world - just boil the bag for 5 minutes.
I find that late hopping never really gets the aroma that dry hopping does, its probably all the yeast activity driving it off.
That's just my experience - everyones system / technique is different.

[Ciderhead]

Vegetal is a bigger descriptive which includes grassy but also nutty and resinous so it's not a better word for this issue.

[Ciderhead]

Gordon Strong hmmm...