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What Is This Enzyme ?

Started by Greg2013, July 11, 2014, 08:47:56 PM

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Greg2013

Can anyone tell me is this the same as alpha amalyse that is needed to convert unmlated grain starch into fermentables ? ;D




https://www.thehomebrewcompany.ie/alfaamylase-vinoferm-100-ml-p-2174.html
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Bzfeale80

Are you asking a rhetorical question there  :P ;D

mr hoppy

Yep, you can make your own Colt 45 out of corn starch with that stuff!

Greg2013

Quote from: Bzfeale80 on July 12, 2014, 12:28:16 AM
Are you asking a rhetorical question there  :P ;D

No i was actually serious for once, could not find anything in vinoferm site to cnfirm contents, name is not enough the way things are these days.
Quote from: mr hoppy on July 12, 2014, 01:28:07 AM
Yep, you can make your own Colt 45 out of corn starch with that stuff!

Never had the pleasure, some experiments i have in mind is all.
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Will_D

Quote from: Greg2013 on July 11, 2014, 08:47:56 PM
Can anyone tell me is this the same as alpha amalyse that is needed to convert unmlated grain starch into fermentables ? ;D
https://www.thehomebrewcompany.ie/alfaamylase-vinoferm-100-ml-p-2174.html
Yes it is the alpha varient of our friendly starch cleaving amylase.

Its commonly used by home wine makers when making country wines from starchy root vegetables.

I have never seen the beta variant for sale in the HB/Wine making shops.

Did you know that your saliva is rich in amylase as it is the first stage of starch conversion: Masticate in mounth, add saliva, swallow, and incubate at 37C in the Tum! That is why certain native drinks are made by chewing and spitting!

Buying a tub from the HBC sounds a lot more sanitary. But why do want it when mashed malted barley is full of it?
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Greg2013

Quote from: Will_D on July 12, 2014, 12:02:15 PM
Quote from: Greg2013 on July 11, 2014, 08:47:56 PM
Can anyone tell me is this the same as alpha amalyse that is needed to convert unmlated grain starch into fermentables ? ;D
https://www.thehomebrewcompany.ie/alfaamylase-vinoferm-100-ml-p-2174.html
Yes it is the alpha varient of our friendly starch cleaving amylase.

Its commonly used by home wine makers when making country wines from starchy root vegetables.

I have never seen the beta variant for sale in the HB/Wine making shops.

Did you know that your saliva is rich in amylase as it is the first stage of starch conversion: Masticate in mounth, add saliva, swallow, and incubate at 37C in the Tum! That is why certain native drinks are made by chewing and spitting!

Buying a tub from the HBC sounds a lot more sanitary. But why do want it when mashed malted barley is full of it?

Getting back into brewing after a hiatus over the last few months and i have a number of experiments in mind since last year which i want to get cracking on now, just for shits and giggles, if they work great and if not no big loss. I don't want to waste my malt barley on these and out of curiosity i want to see what this enzyme will do or how efficient this version of it is. I would have preferred to get the beta amalyse as well but could not locate any between here and the UK.  ::) ;D
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Eoin

The yanks use something called "Beano" which is an anti-flatulence pill in the US to break down beers when they mash too high or have a stuck ferment....It's Alpha amylase from what I know.

biertourist

Quote from: Eoin on July 14, 2014, 01:23:22 PM
The yanks use something called "Beano" which is an anti-flatulence pill in the US to break down beers when they mash too high or have a stuck ferment....It's Alpha amylase from what I know.

You don't want to use Beano.  It will ferment almost anything; it's not alpha amylase, but alpha galactosidase.


Greg2013

Quote from: biertourist on July 22, 2014, 06:06:12 PM
Quote from: Eoin on July 14, 2014, 01:23:22 PM
The yanks use something called "Beano" which is an anti-flatulence pill in the US to break down beers when they mash too high or have a stuck ferment....It's Alpha amylase from what I know.

You don't want to use Beano.  It will ferment almost anything; it's not alpha amylase, but alpha galactosidase.

That's the general idea Biertourist  ;D
"Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet."  Gen. James 'Mad Dog' Mattis USMC(Ret.)

biertourist

Quote from: Greg2013 on July 22, 2014, 06:27:12 PM
Quote from: biertourist on July 22, 2014, 06:06:12 PM
Quote from: Eoin on July 14, 2014, 01:23:22 PM
The yanks use something called "Beano" which is an anti-flatulence pill in the US to break down beers when they mash too high or have a stuck ferment....It's Alpha amylase from what I know.

You don't want to use Beano.  It will ferment almost anything; it's not alpha amylase, but alpha galactosidase.

That's the general idea Biertourist  ;D

My point was that it's not a good idea.

Have you ever made beer from water, table sugar and hops only?  -That's a close approximation to the beer that you're making when you add Beano and wait.


DEMPSEY

Welcome back Biertourist, your input id always welcome  :)
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biertourist

Quote from: DEMPSEY on July 23, 2014, 02:00:12 AM
Welcome back Biertourist, your input id always welcome  :)

Thanks.
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