Mangrove Belgian vs Danstar Abbaye

[AJ_Rowley]

Hey guys, putting in an order with HBC in a couple days and looking for a bit of advice on the above yeasts. The packs will be split into 2 as I will be doing 5l batches.

I haven't used either so to those of you who have which would be a better option for Belgian ales, and any advice you have for the yeasts?

Cheers in advance
AJ

[TheSumOfAllBeers]

I have used the mangrove Belgian ale, and it's a big attenuator. This limits it to saisons really. Tried to make a wit but it turned out a saison.

I have a bunch of danstar abbaye queued up for a brew, but I am hoping it is suitable for  dubbels.

[AJ_Rowley]

That's good to know, I was hoping for a bit of an all-rounder

[LordEoin]

I really like the Mangrove jack Belgian.
I've used it in my last 2 brews and loved them both.
last one finished up at 1.002

[Dr Horrible]

Was that the yeast you used for the Saison you brought to the meet last Friday Eoin? That's a cracker of a beer.

[LordEoin]

Yup, I can't remember the FG on that one but it was low too

[AJ_Rowley]

Eoin, have you tried it with any other Belgian style ale, or just saisons?

[LordEoin]

i only tried it with saisons, fermented at 28°C

[sub82]

Brewed a saison with the Mangrove Jack's and it turned out really tasty. Finished at 1.000!

[TheSumOfAllBeers]

The MJ Belgian has made a nice saison out of the elderflower wit wort I put it into.

It may be a one trick pony, but there is no denying that it turn out tasty beer. I am going to have to put it side by side with some other saison I made with belle saison.

If I hadn't screwed up the carbonation in the beer, that elderflower saison would be competition worthy

[AJ_Rowley]

The MJ Belgian has made a nice saison out of the elderflower wit wort I put it into.

It may be a one trick pony, but there is no denying that it turn out tasty beer. I am going to have to put it side by side with some other saison I made with belle saison.

If I hadn't screwed up the carbonation in the beer, that elderflower saison would be competition worthy

That sounds lovely, any chance if a recipe?

[AJ_Rowley]

Obviously if you're saving it for a competition then by all means decline.

[TheSumOfAllBeers]

If I hadn't screwed up the carbonation in the beer, that elderflower saison would be competition worthy

That sounds lovely, any chance if a recipe?

I will dig it up. The key thing I got right was the amount of elderflower.

[TheSumOfAllBeers]

For a 25l batch it was :
Dingemans pale 2500g
Wheat malted 2500g
Dingemans aromatic 300g
Munich 200g

Hops 20 IBU

Mittlefruh 5g @ 60
Pacific gem 10g @ 30m
Motueka 15g @ 20

This was a no chill brew where hops were not meant to play a big pArt. Was meant to be a wit.

Numbers are adjusted for no chill cube. 20m actually means it went straight into the cube.

Lastly 100g of fresh picked elderflower, destemmed, went straight into the cube.

Will have to sample this again later, and compare with another saison, to isolate differences in yeast character between MJ Belgian and belle saison.

The beer has benefitted a lot from being left alone to condition in the bottle for a long time.

[AJ_Rowley]

Thanks for that, might give it a go some time, with the moteuka in the cube, if chilling in kettle would you add that at flameout?