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Cider Collection: Tuesday 16th

Started by Will_D, November 16, 2015, 10:57:37 AM

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Bubbles

Quote from: molc on November 19, 2015, 09:41:31 AM
Quote from: Bubbles on November 19, 2015, 09:30:52 AM
Quote from: molc on November 18, 2015, 11:49:20 PM
Have it slowly ramping up to 19 now over the next day with Wyeast 3056 in

I had to look that up! Bavarian Wheat yeast? Sounds intriguing. What's the idea with that?

I found a thread on HomeBrewTalk that discussed it. In taste tests it gave a touch of clove and strawberry flavours, while also finishing up in the 1.005 range, to leave a medium dry cider. Now, I have no idea if it will actually stop there, since our juice isn't pasturised and the natural yeast will still be hanging around, but if I can get any residual sweetness, it saves going the artificial sweetener route.

It isn't meant to give ale like flavours that a lot of the yeasts can impart. Finally, the activator with wyeast gives a lot of yeast nutrient, which you need in cider.

I popped in in last night after building it up over 24 hours with a 1L starter and there was a nice thin yeast layer forming this morning when I checked. It better stay thin - the fermenter is almost full to the top from the drum of apple juice; they really filled it to the brim!

Fair play dude, nice research there. I look forward to tasting that.

Bubbles

Quote from: CH on November 19, 2015, 09:52:23 AM
I did all these one year with the exception of the 5 series
http://www.whitelabs.com/beer/cider
All were done in a 50% DME 50% apple juice starter as the article about their experiment in Zymurgy explained.
002 and 028 were my choice as well other just left too much ale taste in the cider and not for me.
I was disappointed with the 775 and it was very cloudy.
Even though they are only champagne yeast after all, ironically over the years I've found the best are the cheapest, and Gervain my personal fav   

Great info. Sounds like the kind of experiment that deserves a sticky thread of its own. Did you take any notes, or is this all from memory?

Leann ull

Well documented in Zymurgy and tbh I was just copying them especially guidance on starters,  I gave it a go as someone here in the past tried with us05 and they said it was a disaster with the first years juice, I found out after the fekin egit pitched on top of IPA dregs,
A good cider maker in NCB informs me Nottingham works well
I posted some pics of various shades and clarity of he results and they are deep in forum somewhere.
I am all about trying new stuff but I am biased as I do like the taste of clean apple in my cider and nothing clever like cloves or banana, you can always bastardise after you have got a clean building block base but you can't polish a turd.

molc

Hehe, well last year I used both 05 and 04 with a clean finish in the end, so hopefully there won't be an Apple turd made
Fermenting: IPA, Lambic, Mead
Conditioning: Lambic, Cider, RIS, Ole Ale, Saison
On Tap: IPA, Helles, Best Bitter