Cider Collection: Tuesday 16th

[Jacob]

Collection from Malahide:
I think James will help me move these!

Will_D:                4x25L: Collecting  11 Drums in total
Pat_buttercups:   2x25L : Will is collecting for me
Nigel.          2x25L : Will is collecting for me
Pheeel:          1x25L: Will is collecting for me
Molc: :          1x25L: Will, can you collect for me?
Jolleybewer 1x25L;Will, can you collect for me
Partridge9:   2x25L : Assuming that this will be collected from Malahide

13x25l

Collection from Swords:
Jacob:          6x25L: No problem here!
Cruiscinlan:   2 x 25L: Simon collecting from Jacob Wednesday evening
SimonF:        1x25L: Simon collecting from Jacob Wednesday evening
Magnethead   2x25L: collecting today
Seb:                2x25L: collecting today
TJ:                 2x25L:  collecting today

15x25l

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28x25l in Total

[Will_D]

Ok I have all 13

Will_D:                4x25L: Collecting  13 Drums in total
Pat_buttercups:   2x25L : Will is collecting for me
Nigel.          2x25L : Will is collecting for me
Pheeel:          1x25L: Will is collecting for me
Molc: :          1x25L: Will, can you collect for me?
Jolleybewer 1x25L;Will, can you collect for me
Partridge9:   2x25L : Collect his and Nigels from Will

The juice is in the car. I will be in the rugby club from 5 till 6:30 ish then at home from 7 onwards.

Just off to check the pH

Collection from Swords:
Jacob:          6x25L: No problem here!
Cruiscinlan:   2 x 25L: Simon collecting from Jacob Wednesday evening
SimonF:        1x25L: Simon collecting from Jacob Wednesday evening
Magnethead   2x25L: collecting today
Seb:                2x25L: collecting today
TJ:                 2x25L:  collecting today

15x25l

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28x25l in Total
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[Shanna]

Hi Will,

Would mind updating the other larger thread with the details of the PH when you have it please?

Thanks,

Shanna

[Leann ull]

OK results are in
OG: 1.049
pH:  3.6

So at most 2 Campden tabs per gallon

[Bubbles]

Thanks for the info Will and CH.

I'm playing it safe this year with 1 tab per gallon. Got a bit too much sulphur last year.

[Leann ull]

How much went in last year?

[Bubbles]

I think I put in 6 or 7 tabs per drum. Only 5 this year.

[molc]

I think I put in 6 or 7 tabs per drum. Only 5 this year.

That's quite low, even last year. I put 13 tabs into my drum last year and didn't notice a sulphur note on the finished cider. I'm guessing something else is causing it not to precipitate out - maybe it's just not cold enough where it's conditioning? The cider expects are sure to have some pointers here.

[Bubbles]

I think I put in 6 or 7 tabs per drum. Only 5 this year.

That's quite low, even last year. I put 13 tabs into my drum last year and didn't notice a sulphur note on the finished cider. I'm guessing something else is causing it not to precipitate out - maybe it's just not cold enough where it's conditioning? The cider expects are sure to have some pointers here.

Turns out it was waaayyyy too low..

Got home from work this evening to find my juice happily fermenting! 😊

I ended up transferring to a fermenter and pitching come cider yeast, just to make sure it finshes in a timely fashion. Hopefully I'll get the best of both worlds from this. Lesson learned. 😀

[Lochlannach]

I took 2.5 litres out of each drum then added 8 tablets...by this evening it was definitely showing signs of fermenting. I bored the lids for a bung and airlock, added some nutrient and yeast and it's already bubbling.

[Pheeel]

12 tablets last night. Fermenting this evening. Bunged in lager yeast. Will see how it goes!!

[molc]

What temp are you guys keeping it at? Mine was at 11 until tonight with the tablets and no activity. Have it slowly ramping up to 19 now over the next day with Wyeast 3056 in, so hoping it'll start up in a day or two.

[Bubbles]

Have it slowly ramping up to 19 now over the next day with Wyeast 3056 in

I had to look that up! Bavarian Wheat yeast? Sounds intriguing. What's the idea with that?

[molc]

Have it slowly ramping up to 19 now over the next day with Wyeast 3056 in

I had to look that up! Bavarian Wheat yeast? Sounds intriguing. What's the idea with that?

I found a thread on HomeBrewTalk that discussed it. In taste tests it gave a touch of clove and strawberry flavours, while also finishing up in the 1.005 range, to leave a medium dry cider. Now, I have no idea if it will actually stop there, since our juice isn't pasturised and the natural yeast will still be hanging around, but if I can get any residual sweetness, it saves going the artificial sweetener route.

It isn't meant to give ale like flavours that a lot of the yeasts can impart. Finally, the activator with wyeast gives a lot of yeast nutrient, which you need in cider.

I popped in in last night after building it up over 24 hours with a 1L starter and there was a nice thin yeast layer forming this morning when I checked. It better stay thin - the fermenter is almost full to the top from the drum of apple juice; they really filled it to the brim!

[Leann ull]

I did all these one year with the exception of the 5 series
http://www.whitelabs.com/beer/cider
All were done in a 50% DME 50% apple juice starter as the article about their experiment in Zymurgy explained.
002 and 028 were my choice as well other just left too much ale taste in the cider and not for me.
I was disappointed with the 775 and it was very cloudy.
Even though they are only champagne yeast after all, ironically over the years I've found the best are the cheapest, and Gervain my personal fav