Pre-Made Wort for Starters

[irish_goat]

http://www.northernbrewer.com/fast-pitch-canned-wort-4-pack

Spotted this on Northern Brewer. A premade can of wort that you can use to make a yeast starter. It's lazy for sure but I can't help but think it looks dead handy too. I hate faffing around with sticky bags of DME anyway. Worth asking HBSs here to stock them?

[Greg2013]

http://www.northernbrewer.com/fast-pitch-canned-wort-4-pack

Spotted this on Northern Brewer. A premade can of wort that you can use to make a yeast starter. It's lazy for sure but I can't help but think it looks dead handy too. I hate faffing around with sticky bags of DME anyway. Worth asking HBSs here to stock them?

Nice idea but would it not be just as easy to make a couple litres wort and freeze it then take out as needed ? I mean take a can of plain malt extract,do up a couple litres to say OG 1040,boil for 15mins to sanitise,cool and pour into a litre plastic bottle and into deep freeze.

[irish_goat]

Probably a far better idea, but I'm lazy. 

[Simon_]

Occasionally I've collected 1L from my used mash grain. I boil it, filled a flip top growler when just off the boil. Stick the bottles in cold water and then stick them in the fridge when cold. I boil it a 2nd time when making the starter.

Last couple of times I tried it got too greedy and ended up with 1.010 wort.

Toss up whether it's handier than DME.

[molc]

I'd pay for canned starter wort. If all you need to do is open the can, pop it in the flask and then add yeast, that is totally worth €2.50 a pop vs. the 20 mins faffing usually involved.

[mcgrath]

I'd pay for canned starter wort. If all you need to do is open the can, pop it in the flask and then add yeast, that is totally worth €2.50 a pop vs. the 20 mins faffing usually involved.

I agree totally, but I think you need more than one can which bumps the price up.

[Simon_]

You'd still feel the need to boil and chill the canned wort though wouldn't you?

[armedcor]

I think the cans are double strength and you dilute them.

[Leann ull]

did he just pour water from the tap into sterilised wort?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXEV513Ya4Q

[armedcor]

Like how most of us poured tap water into our Cooper kits. 😉

[nigel_c]

did he just pour water from the tap into sterilised wort?

Yes, Yes he did. Nice idea but Jesus the way he's doing it is asking for trouble.

If he just boiled the water needed and then added the chilled sterile wort to cool it it wouldn't we that bad.

[neoanto]

Occasionally I've collected 1L from my used mash grain. I boil it, filled a flip top growler when just off the boil. Stick the bottles in cold water and then stick them in the fridge when cold. I boil it a 2nd time when making the starter.

Last couple of times I tried it got too greedy and ended up with 1.010 wort.

Toss up whether it's handier than DME.

The problem with just boiling is you run the risk of contamination leading to botulism.
Pressure cookers can be used to sterlise them properly.

I like the ideas of the those cans though (without the tap water addition!).

[Pepin The Short]

Is this really handier than pre boiling some water and chucking a bit of dme into it ? These cans wont help you make a cuppa while you do this either

[Simon_]

The problem with just boiling is you run the risk of contamination leading to botulism.
Pressure cookers can be used to sterlise them properly.

There's nothing surer than a discussion of storing wort / no chill will lead to a vague mention of botulism

Botulism spores require a warm, low-sugar environment to produce toxins. I store chilled sugary wort in a fridge.
They require time to produce toxin. I use it within days.
Botulism toxin is denatured at 80c. I boil it before use.
Spores require an anaerobic environment. After boiling I shake the shit out of it and stick it on a stir plate.

[Pheeel]

Great! Now I'm not going to be able to drink Simon's beers without thinking of botulism!