Munton's Bock Bier Kit Hack Advice.

[Greg2013]

Getting back into brewing after nine months and i placed an order with HBC last Friday and could not resist picking up the kit below for a quick easy keg filler. I have never brewed this before and i see varying opinions on the quality of these Munton's kits.I was able to dig up little to no information on the yeast that comes with this kit but i would hazard a guess that it is an ale yeast ?I also did a search on here and found two old posts but no really helpful info to speak of.

When order comes in i will have some Munich malt,crystal120,crystal 60,lager malt,and a little Northern Brewer(50gr) and Tettnang(50gr) pellets left over.I was hoping to mini mash this one to maybe 21lt could use some advice as to what grain bill would match this best.Unfortunately Beersmith does not support Munton's kits so i can't use that to design the recipe,TIA.


http://www.thehomebrewcompany.ie/muntons-connoisseur-bock-bier-18kg-p-3616.html

[LordEoin]

I'd probably go with a quick crystal steep (250g), bring to the boil with 10g Northern Brewer for 15min, 20g for 5min + w34/70

[Greg2013]

BeerSmith 2 Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: Munton's Bock Bier Kit Hacked Mk 2.
Brewer: Greg Power.
Asst Brewer:
Style: Traditional Bock
TYPE: Partial Mash
Taste: (30.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 33.10 l
Post Boil Volume: 28.60 l
Batch Size (fermenter): 26.50 l   
Bottling Volume: 24.50 l
Estimated OG: 1.042 SG
Estimated Color: 35.3 EBC
Estimated IBU: 22.5 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 80.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 83.0 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt                   Name                                     Type          #        %/IBU         
1.00 kg               Lager Malt (3.9 EBC)                     Grain         1        25.7 %       
0.50 kg               Munich Malt (17.7 EBC)                   Grain         2        12.9 %       
0.20 kg               Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (236.4 EBC)   Grain         3        5.1 %         
0.10 kg               Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (118.2 EBC)   Grain         4        2.6 %         
4.00 g                Northern Brewer [8.80 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop           5        4.5 IBUs     
1.11 Items            Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 mins)        Fining        6        -             
1.0 pkg               Bohemian Lager Yeast (Mangrove Jack's #M Yeast         7        -             
1.80 kg               Muntons Bock Bier. (95.0 EBC)            Extract       8        46.3 %       
0.29 kg               Sugar, Table (Sucrose) (2.0 EBC)         Sugar         9        7.5 %         


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body
Total Grain Weight: 3.89 kg
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Name              Description                             Step Temperat Step Time     
Mash In           Add 5.19 l of water at 76.8 C           66.7 C        60 min       
Mash Out          Add 2.63 l of water at 97.8 C           75.6 C        10 min       

Sparge: Fly sparge with 27.65 l water at 95.0 C
Notes:
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NB : Made a mistake when brewing this batch,added 3lt extra sparge water because i forgot about adding the mash out water.Also did not take into account that adding and washing out the extract tin would increase final volume dramatically(2.5lt extra from using the extract tin).


First Runnings Volume : 12.0lt.

First Runnings Gravity : 1039.

Batch Sparge Volume : 19.0lt.

Batch Sparge Gravity : 1004.
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Pre Boil Volume : 31.0lt.

Pre Boil Gravity : 1017.

Post Boil Volume : 24.0lt.

Post Boil Gravity : 1021.

Post Boil Gravity+ Muntons Bock Bier Kit : 26.5lt@1042.
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Pitched 1 x M84 yeast starter @ 10.30hrs 15/06/2016.

Mangrove Jacks M84 Bohemian Lager Yeast was BB 12/2015 so grew a stareter 12 hrs previous to pitching using simple table sugar solution. This batch is being brewed at ale temperatures.

OG was originally 1042/26.5lt and on advice of Gash i added 290gr table sugar 15/06/2016 about 12hrs after pitching yeast. This was to adjust OG from 1042-1047 giving a better abv and aiding attenuation.

Created with BeerSmith 2 - http://www.beersmith.com
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[Greg2013]

After four days this has dropped from 1047-1010. I have now put the Fv into my kitchen fridge to condition,something which after 3yrs of home brewing i only recently discovered i could do.

Although this was originally a bock bier kit it is a whole different animal now.I wanted something brewed at ale temps because i no longer have lagering capabilities,also i wanted something lower abv quick and easy drinker to replenish stocks,even though this is not to style i hope it will at least be drinkable.

If i were to do this kit again i would probably go more along the lines of what LE said and maybe also short brew it so i could use a smaller fv and fit it in my kitchen fridge at proper lager temps.

[Greg2013]

Batch had dropped from 1047-1010 after only 3 days(18/06/2016) so i put whole Fv into kitchen fridge to crash chill for two days.
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Kegged 19.00hrs 20/06/2016 rocked and rolled at 45psi for 3mins,beer was already chilled to around 9C in kitchen fridge.

Kegged : 19.0lt.

Bottled : 5.0lt(bottles to be left in kitchen press for minimum two weeks to carbonate,used 1/2tsp per 500ml table sugar solution for priming).

OG : 1047.

FG : 1010.

ABV : 4.9%abv.
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