2017 National Brewing Championships

[CC]

yep i just got my entries in and paid.

[Damo]

I'm done

[Dr Jacoby]

1. Des
2. Damo
3. Manu
4. Colm
5. Dr Jacoby
6. imark
7. DEMPSEY
8. Stubrew
9. Sebastian
10. GlasBrewInc

[stubrew]

1. Des
2. Damo
3. Manu
4. Colm
5. Dr Jacoby
6. imark
7. DEMPSEY
8. Stubrew
9. Sebastian
10. GlasBrewInc

[irish_goat]

Few late entries left to be paid lads. Will have to completely close tonight just.

[Deemon147]

I just saw this today that payment was needed last night, I had three beers registered? Does that mean they are gonezo?

[Hingo]

I just saw this today that payment was needed last night, I had three beers registered? Does that mean they are gonezo?

Unless you paid before the deadline,  yep.  Also the 31st was the deadline (Tuesday)

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[SlugTrap]

2017 National Brewing Championships - Medal Categories

Last year's Championship medal categories had:

• Categories with 1 or 2 entries
• A few beers won medals with no real competition
• Categories with 30+ entries
• Worthy beers may have been overlooked in mini-Best-in-Shows

This year, we wanted to spread out the entries as evenly as possible but still group styles together in a way that makes sense.

That's why the NHC is using these new categories for judging + awarding medals at Nationals:

The 2017 National Brewing Championships Medal Categories

FAQ
How did you come up with these categories?
We started with Appendix A (5) in the Guidelines, then tweaked by style family.

Why is [this style] lumped together with/broken out from [this other style]?
Numbers.
Less frequently-brewed styles - lagers, for example - were amalgamated with others like it.
Popular styles like IPAs were split up.

Does this hurt my chances?
Not if you make good beer! 
For someone who made a Munich Dunkel, there are more horses in your race than there would've been last year.
But for the average NHC member who made, say, a stout, your odds of winning have probably gone up.

Are you allowed to do this?
Definitely.
From the 2015 BJCP Beer Style Guidelines, page iv:
"There is no requirement that competitions use style categories as award categories! Individual styles can be grouped in any fashion to create desired award categories in competition, for instance to balance out the number of entries in each award category."

If you have any more questions, feel free to contact me directly.
And good luck to everyone!

[Leann ull]

Nice job and a fair mix, Baltic Porter is in an interesting group tho

[Dr Jacoby]

Thanks for that Richard. Very useful.

Just to put the Cat amongst the pigeons, could we try the following as a way to ensure that a brewer doesn't end up competing with themselves:

If you are unlucky enough to have two of your entries appear in the same merged category but lucky enough to have both beers in medal positions, the beer in the lower medal position is awarded the same number of points as the next medal position up. An example: suppose I get a gold and a bronze in the same merged category, I am awarded the standard number of points for the gold but the bronze gets treated in points terms as if it is a silver medal beer. The actual silver medal beer is unaffected and the beer in fourth place gets nothing, as normal.  In effect, this eliminates competition against one of your own beers.  Any downsides?

[mick02]

Thanks for that Richard. Very useful.

Just to put the Cat amongst the pigeons, could we try the following as a way to ensure that a brewer doesn't end up competing with themselves:

If you are unlucky enough to have two of your entries appear in the same merged category but lucky enough to have both beers in medal positions, the beer in the lower medal position is awarded the same number of points as the next medal position up. An example: suppose I get a gold and a bronze in the same merged category, I am awarded the standard number of points for the gold but the bronze gets treated in points terms as if it is a silver medal beer. The actual silver medal beer is unaffected and the beer in fourth place gets nothing, as normal.  In effect, this eliminates competition against one of your own beers.  Any downsides?

I think this is actually a really good idea. No one gets penalised and you don't end up competing against yourself. Once it only relates to points and not actual medals then i can't think of any downsides.

[Pheeel]

I don't get it

[Dr Jacoby]

It would make the competition for best overall brewer a little bit fairer.

[Simon_]

Nice job and a fair mix, Baltic Porter is in an interesting group tho

Yeah Kolsch V Baltic Porter is the one odd matchup

[Hingo]

California Common is bottom fermenting...  Just saying...