yeast harvested from bottles

[Eoink]

I like, if possible, to brew using yeast harvested from bottles because
a. It is cheaper
b. It keeps in with the DIY homebrew philosophy
c. You get to drink the rest of the bottle

I use
- Fullers IPA to make  ESB
- Westmahle to make Belgian dubbel/tripels

Does anyone know of a reliable list of beers that use the original yeast for conditioning?
Or what have you used successfully.

Eoink

[Eoin]

I like, if possible, to brew using yeast harvested from bottles because
a. It is cheaper
b. It keeps in with the DIY homebrew philosophy
c. You get to drink the rest of the bottle

I use
- Fullers IPA to make  ESB
- Westmahle to make Belgian dubbel/tripels

Does anyone know of a reliable list of beers that use the original yeast for conditioning?
Or what have you used successfully.

Eoink

Coopers is good for growing from the bottle.

[Will_D]

There is a pretty definitive list available on the web. Troiuble is its pretty old. Will try to find it.

Here an American biased list:

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f163/commercial-beer-yeast-harvest-list-262713/

With an unknown beer:

Basically all you do is set a bottle aside for a week or two in the cool.

Then carefully pour out the beer leaving say 10 ml in bottom.

Inspect bottom of bottle. If you can see yeast you should be able to grow it.

If you cant see the yeast give the dregs a good rousing and poor into fresh glass. Let settle and  then compare to the beer you are drinking. If its anyway cloudy then it may well be growable up!

[johnrm]

Here is the one from 1998...
http://www.nada.kth.se/~alun/Beer/Bottle-Yeasts/

[johnrm]

I think having a definitive and active resource for this would be extremely useful.
Is this something we could do here?
If an updateable table is available, homeberewers world wide will flock to us.

Brewery, Beer, style, Pasteurised, Filtered, Harvestable, Credit to(Who did it last), Date

[Tom]

I think Fuller's Bengal Lancer had some yeast in it.

Would be good to try Whitbread yeast from the bottle against that sold by Whitelabs/Wyeast.

F-it, I'll do it.

[johnrm]

I'll throw together a spreadsheet of anything I can find and post it here somewhere.
In the mean time please post your findings here and I will include them.
Thanks

[Damofto]

Proper Job (St.Austell) bottle condition with their own yeast, I harvested some a while back but haven't used it yet.

[delzep]

I think Fuller's Bengal Lancer had some yeast in it.

1845 defo has, but it's very hard to culture up from. IPA is a lot easier.

Bengal Lancer = IPA...same thing

[Eoink]

I also use Schneider Weisse 'Original' for wheat beers. (bought in Dunnes Stores) It made a good German weiss beer but it wasn't so successful when I used it for a Belgian wit. It fermented ok but the flavour lacked something. It might have been it just didn't work so well with the corriander and orange.

I guess by their name any Hefeweizen would contain enough good yeast to make a starter. Hefe = Yeast in German

[irish_goat]

I also use Schneider Weisse 'Original' for wheat beers. (bought in Dunnes Stores) It made a good German weiss beer but it wasn't so successful when I used it for a Belgian wit. It fermented ok but the flavour lacked something. It might have been it just didn't work so well with the corriander and orange.

I guess by their name any Hefeweizen would contain enough good yeast to make a starter. Hefe = Yeast in German

I can't remember where I read it but afaik, all the major brands of wheat beer filter and then re-pitch a bottling strain of yeast, with Schneider being the only exception.

[delzep]

Two different bottles!

same bottle...different labels 

[johnrm]

I can't remember where I read it but afaik, all the major brands of wheat beer filter and then re-pitch a bottling strain of yeast, with Schneider being the only exception.

I read/heard that Franziskaner don't repitch and I have a bottle at the ready to pitch into my stirplate/starter once I get it built.

As of now I do not believe there is a one-stop for this info.

I have googled and have found a few sources for some of this info, some of this is dated.
I plan to compile this into a table/spreadsheet and maintain based on personal experience and the experience of fellow brewers.
I will post this info either here or on a fresh thread.

If you have info or better again first hand experience of a then please post it here.

Thanks!

[Will_D]

As anyone thought of writing a nice polite letter to the brewery and asking them?

After all imitation is the greatest form of flattery!

[irish_goat]

I read/heard that Franziskaner don't repitch and I have a bottle at the ready to pitch into my stirplate/starter once I get it built.

As of now I do not believe there is a one-stop for this info.

I have googled and have found a few sources for some of this info, some of this is dated.
I plan to compile this into a table/spreadsheet and maintain based on personal experience and the experience of fellow brewers.
I will post this info either here or on a fresh thread.

If you have info or better again first hand experience of a then please post it here.

Thanks!

This guy tried Franziskaner yeast, to no avail. http://discussions.probrewer.com/showthread.php?2988

I wasn't aware of breweries filtering their wheat beer and then simply dumping dead yeast in for cosmetic reasons though.