First Home Brew Started this evening . . .

[Damo]

yep, Dempsey's right.

Keep away for a min of 2wks. 3 if you can manage

Your beer will thank you for it!

[fishjam45 (Colin)]

3 weeks even before I bottle it?
Is there not a risk of leaving it for too long before bottling?

[Will_D]

Not a kit brewer myself so Does kit beers need to be allowed to condition first to let the yeast do a clean up after primary is done.

Why not!?!

Its not how you make the wort that is important. Wort is wort and fermentation and the magic yeasties work without prior knowledge of the production process.

Patience is the watchword!

[Damo]

I would leave it, your yeast needs to clean itself up a little. smooth out if you like!

3wks no problems

Don't be worrying about your bubbler, people will tell you take 3 readings on consecutive days!
more chance of introducing nasties, especially for your fist brew.
2wks will see fermentation thru, 1wk will clean it up

[fishjam45 (Colin)]

So 3 weeks is better? Was told to wait 1 1/2 to 2 weeks before... What does yeast  cleaning itself up mean?

[Ciderhead]

Demosey, As a complete newbie I don't have a clue ....

He's been called a few things in his time!

Fishjam45 you are in Wicklow right? pm me and we can chat on the "I think my beer is ucked" helpline dedicated to supporting new brewers!

All this free advice are you not a member yet?!

[fishjam45 (Colin)]

"Demosey" - feckin autocorrect on the phone ...

Yeah I'm in beautiful bray, will send you a pm now

[LordEoin]

1 week - mostly fermented out but mucky - lots of sediment if you bottle now
2 weeks - pretty much guaranteed fermented out and the biggest stuff has dropped out - fine to bottle
3 weeks - a bit clearer - less sediment in the bottle

If you're bottle conditioning, clarity in primary isn't much of a concern tbh. it just means less sediment in the bottle.
Once it's properly fermented out, All the same conditioning will happen in the bottle at the end of the day

[TheSumOfAllBeers]

So 3 weeks is better? Was told to wait 1 1/2 to 2 weeks before... What does yeast  cleaning itself up mean?

Lots of interesting chemistry goes on when the yeast ferments out your wort.

Some of these chemicals contribute to 'off flavours'.

I am not a biochemist, but when we speak of the yeast 'clearing up' we mean that the yeast absorbs these chemicals in some way, often simply by sticking to them and dragging them down to the yeast cake as the yeast settles out.

[fishjam45 (Colin)]

Thanks guys, I'll wait a while longer so if it's gonna help.
I was just a little concerned that there was a risk of leaving it too long in the FV.

Cheers again for the replies.

[DEMPSEY]

When beer is brewed the first stage of fermenting is rapid and the easy to eat maltose sugars are consumed by the yeast. As this frantic consumption happens the yeast multiply and some can't hack it and so explode spilling their guts into the beer some of which is histamine. When the primary ferment is done the HUGH (nhc joke) amount of yeast look around for something else to chew on so they ate's up all the crap left after the first feast thus the clean up . 

[Ciderhead]

Dempsey, I feel I have just visited the abattoir and seen how they make sausages, you and your carnivorous yeast stories.
Next you will be telling me they shit, fart and belch through my beer and then folks ask why I do secondary, jeeez.


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[fishjam45 (Colin)]

Cheers Dempsey, or should I say Demosey 

[fishjam45 (Colin)]

Bubbling has all but stopped now . . . am itching to get bottling!