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Irish beer Clone Recipes?

Started by admin, November 05, 2012, 04:48:42 PM

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delzep

Found a couple of old 750ml bottles of O'Haras Celebration stout (BB May 2009) that were sadly empty....on the back label though it mentions using Northdown and fuggles if thats any use to anyone?

irish_goat

O'Hara's Celebration was the precursor for Leann Follain, very similar recipe. We had a bottle at a Beoir meetup a few months ago. Few years out of date but it still tasted fantastic.

Qs

Quote from: Dube on November 05, 2012, 04:48:42 PM
Would be cool if we had a section on the forum for clone recipes of Irish beers. While they'll never be 100% correct I think it'd be a useful resource.

I have recipes for a Galway Hooker clone and Metalman Pale Ale clone that I reckon are fairly accurate, tho the Metalman one less so now that they stopped using Amarillo.

Anyone else interested?

Sorry to bump an ancient thread but I was wondering if you still had thise Dube? I was drinking Metalman again at the weekend and I'm still amazed how tasty it is for such a low gravity. I'd love to give it a go.

Bubbles

Do a search for Ciderhead's Metalman clone. It's excellent, and despite deliberately being brewed a few points lower than the commercial beer (it was for the summer session comp), it was absolutely spot-on.

Qs

Ahh no crystal, interesting. Thanks a mil. I'm definitely going to try get a batch of this one for when the keg buy comes in.  :)

irish_goat

Metalman has some Summit hops for bittering. The cask version is usually dry hopped (with different hops) but the keg version is not.

Bubbles

The original Metalman recipe was a Cascade & Amarillo beer, but according to Grainne Walsh in the "interview" I did with her last year, it hasn't had any Amarillo since the shortage a few years back. Summit is the other flavour/aroma hop these days.

Bubbles

Quote from: Bubbles on October 07, 2014, 03:23:59 PM
Do a search for Ciderhead's Metalman clone. It's excellent, and despite deliberately being brewed a few points lower than the commercial beer (it was for the summer session comp), it was absolutely spot-on.

Oops. Meant to say Ciderheads Galway Hooker clone, not Metalman.

nigel_c

I'm glad this thread has been resurrected. With all the new brewerys opened in the last few years we are spoilt for choice.

We be great if we had the basics that people could add to.

Eg. Metalman Pale ale: ABV , IBU , Malts, hop additions.
      Portethouse Hop Head : ABV , IBU , Malts , hop additions.

Most brewers are pretty happy to give a few clues on recipe and if they give enough out we can patch them together. Plus an educated guess from ourselves  ;)


molc

Would love to try a foam and fury clone if someone had any suggestions.
Fermenting: IPA, Lambic, Mead
Conditioning: Lambic, Cider, RIS, Ole Ale, Saison
On Tap: IPA, Helles, Best Bitter

Bubbles

Hop Bomb posted the hop bill for f&f a couple of months back...

FWH with chinook.
Galena at start of the boil.
Chinook & Pacific Jade at half way point
Mosaic with 10 or 15 mins to go
More Mosaic at flame out.
Dry hop is with simcoe  2g per litre and 3g per litre.

Qs

Quote from: Bubbles on October 07, 2014, 04:53:57 PM
Quote from: Bubbles on October 07, 2014, 03:23:59 PM
Do a search for Ciderhead's Metalman clone. It's excellent, and despite deliberately being brewed a few points lower than the commercial beer (it was for the summer session comp), it was absolutely spot-on.

Oops. Meant to say Ciderheads Galway Hooker clone, not Metalman.

Was wondering why I couldn't find it.  :o


I could have imagined this but I think Chris from GB talked a bit about OFAF on the Brewing Network podcast. I might have re-listen and see if there are any other clues.

molc

Quote from: Bubbles on October 07, 2014, 06:17:24 PM
Hop Bomb posted the hop bill for f&f a couple of months back...

FWH with chinook.
Galena at start of the boil.
Chinook & Pacific Jade at half way point
Mosaic with 10 or 15 mins to go
More Mosaic at flame out.
Dry hop is with simcoe  2g per litre and 3g per litre.

Very interesting. Going to try my first Pliny clone over Christmas, so if that goes well, might try to do a F&F clone then with the same malt bill...
Fermenting: IPA, Lambic, Mead
Conditioning: Lambic, Cider, RIS, Ole Ale, Saison
On Tap: IPA, Helles, Best Bitter

Bubbles

By the way, Metalman are reported to use Nottingham in their pale ale. You'd want to be fermenting it pretty cool though, to keep the esters to a minimum.

Qs

Quote from: Bubbles on October 07, 2014, 06:22:57 PM
By the way, Metalman are reported to use Nottingham in their pale ale. You'd want to be fermenting it pretty cool though, to keep the esters to a minimum.

Easier said than done without good temp control. I'm using Notty for the first time at the moment in an IPA and its gone nuts with the heat it creates. It heated from 14 to 18 in a couple of hours in my swamp cooler once it got started.