Black IPA recipe - advice wanted

[mr hoppy]

Thinking about brewing this up over the holidays.

I've not brewed with Simcoe before. I've not had an all Simcoe beer either, but blackbrew tells me that it'll be awesome and I've liked the beers I've had with Simcoe in them.

Any thoughts?

6000g  Pearl
400g      Carapils   
175g      Carafa I   
50g      Sinnamar            

2tsp Calcium Sulfate      

Mash 17.5l @ 67 C + 2 x 6l batch sparge @ 77 C

Add Carafa immediately prior to sparge.
Add Sinnamar at start of boil
               
60 minute boil.
               
37g   Simcoe   13.2%   60 minutes
46g   Simcoe   13.2%   5 minutes
117g   Simcoe   Dry Hop

Yeast: Conan      

Boil volume 24 l
Original volume 20 l
Final volume 18 l

Expected boil gravity      61
Expected original gravity   71
Expected colour         70
Expected IBU         90

[Dr Jacoby]

That's a lot of sulphate to be putting in. You'll get a smoother bitterness by cutting back to one tsp. I'd also use just one sparge and make sure the pH is less than 6 to avoid extracting too many tannins

[mr hoppy]

That's a lot of sulphate to be putting in. You'll get a smoother bitterness by cutting back to one tsp. I'd also use just one sparge and make sure the pH is less than 6 to avoid extracting too many tannins

Just to clarify - I'm in Cork. My water profile is seriously soft.


Ca - 22 mg/l
Mg - 6  mg/l
HCO3 - 37  mg/l
Ph 6.98 
Total disolved solids 148.7

I've used 2 tsps of gyspum in a few (much less hoppy) hoppy beers recently and been happy with the results. Although that was more on a Burton than US bitterness tip.

[nigel_c]

Give yourself a load of time with Conan. I put a black IPA on to brew on black Friday (29/11) and only down to 1.020 and still going plodding along.

[mr hoppy]

Thanks for the advice. No one has any issues with 200g of Simcoe into 20 litres of beer?

[imark]

+1 on conan.  On second brew with it and reckon I've another couple to do yet to get the measure of it.

[mr hoppy]

Would it be an idea to finish this out with a bit of WLP 540

Seriously though, I've kind of half been following the discussion of Conan on here - is it kind of like Graham Wheeler's Northern English ale yeasts that need to be roused to finish out properly?

[mr hoppy]

Also, did ye do a starter or not?

[delzep]

My Conan yeast ipa fermented as normal (took two weeks). Came out at 7%

[imark]

First batch without a starter.  Pitched the pack within a week. Second batch deliberately over pitched. It's flocculating a lot more than I expected. Getting desired attenuation is an art.

[imark]

My Conan yeast ipa fermented as normal (took two weeks). Came out at 7%

What were your og fg and fermentation schedule?

[delzep]

My Conan yeast ipa fermented as normal (took two weeks). Came out at 7%

What were your og fg and fermentation schedule?

From memory it was 1.065 and 1.012. Fermented in the spare room as usual. Dunno what temperature

[imark]

My Conan yeast ipa fermented as normal (took two weeks). Came out at 7%

What were your og fg and fermentation schedule?

From memory it was 1.065 and 1.012. Fermented in the spare room as usual. Dunno what temperature

My current one was 1.060 and after 2.5wks I'm at 1.016. 4 pts off target. But I have been working it at the low end of the temperature range initially.
Did you use a starter?

[delzep]

Nope straight from the pouch

[mr hoppy]

Thanks for the advice. No one has any issues with 200g of Simcoe into 20 litres of beer?

Sorry for talking to myself, but crazy yeast but hops are ok?