Shit Irish Breweries

[brenmurph]

And im sure its generally known what one would expect to purchase a keg of rascals, n17, bru, trouble or other small craft . if i had a pub what can i buy a craft keg at?
 

[brenmurph]

 While a puclican can ask 20 a pint, that his business. However if an eqivalent craft style and abv is two quid dearer we need as per my earlier post speak up or talk with our feet. Its not good for local business if the pubs are profiteering by making craft not affordable versus mainstream...theres a massive student young population driven by price..

[Will_D]

What a lot of you are neglecting is the cost of stocking and displaying the beers!

Despite my hi tech chemistry background (and computers and stuff) I am actually the end-of-line of Welsh grocers.
Think of a Welsh versions of Arkwright in Open All Hours - Us Davis' make Arkright look like a S-Sp-Sp-e-e-e-nddd thrift!

Every Grocer and modern supermarket know that stuff on shelves have to pay for their shelf space!

Eg: A tap of Guin-heino will earn lets say €200 a week. A tap of "Old Dog Beater Extra DIPA" may earn €50 a week.

Likewise a fridge full of bottled "Heino-Weisser-Can-Mex stuff" may well earn €300 a week.

Same fridge (4 shelves with 8 craft beers in it) may earn €50 a week.

So you see there may be a genuine reason why craft beers need a slight up-pricing.

NOte: I did say SLIGHT!

[brenmurph]

Guinness heino o haras creans trouble gypsey....all same price in kildare. Buy dem equivalent prices  sell dem similar prices.

[mr hoppy]

Will D - fair comment but it can be taken to far, and not just with Irish beers. There's beers I love - Rochefort 10, XX Bitter and others that I've stopped buying because the mark ups are grotesque and that means they end up sitting on the shelf for even longer.

[hopapotamus]

just read this tread and noticed its been read over 1,000 times . i know i for 1 feel strongly about the "craft tax" and that it has to end , the vfi has to be told in no uncertin terms that if they keep this up they will kill the goose and have no craft golden eggs , i do like to support irish brewers recently i was at an event with mountain man and the cotton ball brewers and their distributor , i brought up the craft tax issue and was meet with ummmms and ahhhhhs , mountain man hairy goat is my current choice of beer but at €4 in the offlicence i buy alot less of it than i would at €3.50 . people are not stupid and a pint at +€5 leaves a bad taste ,drives people away from micros and from the pub ,take your cut by all means pubs are there to turn a profit but as i was once told in buisness "half a loaf is better than no bread at all". something like the campain for real ale in the uk should happen here , an irish beer drinkers lobby group to fight what i see as profitering

[johnrm]

The closest you will get to a beer drinkers lobby group is Beoir.

[DEMPSEY]

Beoir should be the voice for this but I remember that beoir had recommended that pubs charge a premium a while back.

[Qs]

Beoir is more concerned with supporting breweries at the moment. I suppose thats the biggest thing as the scene takes off but at some point they should tackle pricing too.

[hopapotamus]

i for one do support irish brewers my fave beers iv tryed in 2014 have mostly been irish micros and have encouraged people i know to stock them , one bar owner thought i was a rep for blacks and mountain man but the truth is i like certin bars and would like them to serve the beer i like . good beer is good beer but better if its irish and at a fair price .

[johnrm]

The only issue with this is that is if they get it in and then they rip the arse out of it.
Do you buy it then?

[hopapotamus]

good point john , damned if you do damned if you dont , but the idea of a hairy goat by a roaring fire has been on my mind the last few nights , and even better if it was on cask , i guess we cant always get what we want ....if witherspoons shake up the market a bit hopefully it will come .......i like my pubs old school and im far from a skinny jeans wearing hipster ,im fussy about my beer which is why i brew , but im also a tight fart lol

[DEMPSEY]

If ye want dear pricing than go to New York city. Beer duty is less here but bar prices are around $7.50 to $9.00 a pint. And if ye think everything is bigger here well its not their pints because they are smaller than ours . Oh and then there is the tip you must add on . Beer is good though .

[hopapotamus]

$7.50 is roughly €6 so we arnt that far , and shur they have loads of crack and hoes over there ..... must be mad for fun and gardening them lads.

[brenmurph]

Nyc is like london.. A big bloddy rip off. Beer twice de price of everywhere else! What a pint cost in a little town  or village outside nyc?