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Spoons give Heineken a kick

Started by Padraich, December 09, 2014, 01:11:51 PM

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Padraich

So... what do you all think?

Spoons are stopping selling Heineken and Murphys across their 926 pubs in UK & Ireland cause they wouldn't supply The Forty Foot.

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/agribusiness-and-food/wetherspoon-axes-heineken-after-d%C3%BAn-laoghaire-pub-row-1.2031075

Bubbles

Wow. £60 million worth of business down the drain... that's purchasing power for you.

dcalnan

So now will wetherspoons not serve any stouts as beamish is owned by Heineken as well, and they only served them as Guinness wouldn't give them a cheaper price.

molc

I do like that they're putting the pressure on at least, but they could be a monster in the making yet.
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Padraich

Who knows...

Heineken UK is seeking resolution according to Reuters; and I'd imagine that the Dutch owners will have something to say as the Heineken share price dropped 1% as soon as this was announced today while Spoons were trading flat.

Interesting times.  I can see a case study in here some place for the economists and business heads of the world.  Brand value vs purchasing power.

irish_goat

Quote from: dcalnan on December 09, 2014, 01:27:28 PM
So now will wetherspoons not serve any stouts as beamish is owned by Heineken as well, and they only served them as Guinness wouldn't give them a cheaper price.

Hopefully they'll get a decent stout in now.

Bubbles

Quote from: molc on December 09, 2014, 01:30:30 PM
I do like that they're putting the pressure on at least, but they could be a monster in the making yet.

Indeed. A sober reminder that if a super-chain like 'Spoons has that amount of power over a brewing giant like Heineken, imagine the power they have over smaller craft breweries.

Rossa

This might have a knock on effect for Irish grain farmers and malsters.

Hop Bomb

We did a blind taste test at a recent bjcp night & Beamish rocked the dry stout category with 42ish points on average. With Guinness & Murphys both scoring low 20's on average iirc.
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Shanna

Quote from: Hop Bomb on December 09, 2014, 03:32:36 PM
We did a blind taste test at a recent bjcp night & Beamish rocked the dry stout category with 42ish points on average. With Guinness & Murphys both scoring low 20's on average iirc.
Always felt it was highly underrated due its more fuller flavour than its more well know Irish cousins that seem to have adjusted the flavour to appeal to a wider audience.

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brenmurph

Always been a fan of beamish and on numerous blind tests it always does well

Bubbles

Is it nice out of the bottle? I much prefer bottled stouts to nitro.

DEMPSEY

When I first ever started drinking stouts it was Beamish that I preferred.  :)
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molc

Related question, has anyone tried the smithwicks pale ale? Was given it a pub at the weekend and it wasn't too bad I thought.
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Greg2013

So JDW undercut the price of a pint but why do Heineken care about that ? After all are they not already after getting paid for the beer ? ???

On a side note i never liked Beamish or Murphys ,far too sweet for a stout on both and i always felt they were a lot thinner bodied than Guinness tbh. :o
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