Bargain Alerts

[Tom]

Seriously?! Only 3.5 stars? It's a rubber ARSE for under £3. What do people WANT?!

[LordEoin]

a hole?

[DEMPSEY]

a hole?

[ColdTurkey]

Amazon UK are plugging some pretty cheap CO2 regs like this one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00NC68VK0/ref=dra_a_cs_ss_hn_xx_P1200_1000?tag=dradisplay0bb-21&ascsubtag=54feb0f92a8c536bd3963e368b9dbbf3_S

Note the "Does not deliver to Ireland" so its ParcelMotel also you need to buy the tail separately.

There are a number of CO2 regs is you search Amazon

I have a brand new one of these for sale.

[cruiscinlan]

Cheapest base malt I can find is Viking 2 Row Pilsner 2.8 to 4.5 EBC @€21.95/25kg or €20.85 post discount.

http://www.homebrewwest.ie/viking-2-row-pilsner-malt-28-to-45-ebc-25-kg-5558-p.asp

[Flanagan]

Cheapest base malt I can find is Viking 2 Row Pilsner 2.8 to 4.5 EBC @€21.95/25kg or €20.85 post discount.

http://www.homebrewwest.ie/viking-2-row-pilsner-malt-28-to-45-ebc-25-kg-5558-p.asp

Used this malt a while back with a 60 minute boil.... WON'T be making that mistake again!

I had read a few bit and pieces about how the way grain is malted these days eliminates the need for a 90 minute boil even with pilsener malt, but this malt gave off a bad dose of DMS. It was an otherwise decent beer.

[nigel_c]

A good while back its switched to 90 min boils for all my beers.
As far as DMS goes I've never found any.
It's good practice and would recommend it.

[DEMPSEY]

A good while back IT'S switched to 90 min boils for all my beers.
As far as DMS goes I've never found any.
It's good practice and would recommend it.

So does one from the North county Brewers now refer to one self as ITS instead of I Beats  the queen with her "well one does does'nt one

[nigel_c]

Haha. It's all for show. Don't worry. 

[Sorcerers Apprentice]

Cheapest base malt I can find is Viking 2 Row Pilsner 2.8 to 4.5 EBC @€21.95/25kg or €20.85 post discount.

http://www.homebrewwest.ie/viking-2-row-pilsner-malt-28-to-45-ebc-25-kg-5558-p.asp

Used this malt a while back with a 60 minute boil.... WON'T be making that mistake again!

I had read a few bit and pieces about how the way grain is malted these days eliminates the need for a 90 minute boil even with pilsener malt, but this malt gave off a bad dose of DMS. It was an otherwise decent beer.

It would be interesting to see the specs of this malt
Usually you would be looking at an SMM (S- Methyl Methionine) ( which is the DMS precursor ) typical value of 2-6 mg/kg for a lager malt, with the lower the value the better

[cruiscinlan]

Specs are:

http://www.homebrewwest.ie/viking-2-row-pilsner-malt-28-to-45-ebc-25-kg-5558-p.asp

Specifications:
moisture % max 5.0
extract fine % dm min 81
colour °EBC 2.8 – 4.5
protein % dm max 11.7
soluble nitrogen mg/100 g malt 620 – 800
free amino nitrogen mg/l min 130
b-glucans mg/l max 250


Other analytical information
pH 5.8 – 6.1
saccharification min max 15
viscosity mPas max. 1.60
friability % min 78
degree of fermentation app. % min. 80
diastatic power WK dm min 240


By the way Flanagan thanks for the tip on the boil length!!

[Sorcerers Apprentice]

Thanks Cruiscinlan unfortunately the SMM value is not listed, this value would give a better indication of expected DMS, if the value is low you would need to look elsewhere for the cause of DMS, eg vigour and time of boil as already mentioned, plus cooling time at the end of the Boil.

[Flanagan]

Just to add a bit of detail since some of you took an interest.
It was Viking 2 Row Pilsener Malt making up 89% of grain bill.
It was a good thorough rolling boil for 60 mins, I have an electric urn and the pre boil vol was about 15-16L.
It was cooled to 20C or so in about 40 mins. You know the story, about 15mins to get it down to 35-40 then longer for the last 15 degrees or so.
I knew it was DMS, the old tin of corn, but I brought it into a brewday in Galway Bay a few weeks and the dude (Fursey I think) confirmed DMS, with also a little bit of yeast strain. Otherwise I think it would have been a nice beer, 5% belgian blonde job. I have been drinking it but I'm sick of it now, just can't get past that DMS...

[Sorcerers Apprentice]

Hi Flanagan
This was no critique on your brewing technique just some background info regarding smm levels in wort and their impact on DMS you are right in that Lagers are better boiled for 90 minutes due to the lower level of colour required during malting/kilning  but if this malt stands out it would be nice to see the SMM value to compare

[Tom]

Sorry to disturb the Viking malt bit, but here's a potential bargain:

https://www.donedeal.ie/antiques-for-sale/beer-pumps/11077972

It's a 4 tap Gaskell and Chambers type pump, built in Dublin. Could have a fair bit of age to it. No price, but have a look at the ebay prices and make a conservative offer based on that. For example:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Antique-traditional-mounted-beer-hand-pull-pump-engine-Shirebrook-Drum-/121834700327?hash=item1c5de9fe27:g:ifsAAOSwys5WUvx4 for £99.