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Long road to a 3 vessel system

Started by mrmeindl, June 10, 2015, 11:53:56 PM

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mrmeindl

June 10, 2015, 11:53:56 PM Last Edit: August 01, 2017, 10:22:07 PM by mrmeindl
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DEMPSEY

What's this,"I will weld" ??? Do you mean to tell us that you are now declaring that you can weld stainless steel :). Do you live near me by chance ;D.
Dei miscendarum discipulus
Forgive us our Hangovers as we forgive those who hangover against us

armedcor

Damn this sounds like it's gonna be real good! On the issue of disconnects I'm all for triclovers on the cold side of brewing. Fermenter etc but you can't beat camlocks or quick disconnects for the convenience on brew day.

Leann ull

Looking good  :)
for the bergland pots I use in the base I used one of these

http://www.angelhomebrew.co.uk/en/taps-and-fittings/92-12-bsp-skin-fitting-deck-fitting.html

screwed down by one of these

http://www.angelhomebrew.co.uk/en/taps-and-fittings/81-12-bsp-90-street-elbow-male-female.html

There was some grinding involved to allow it have as low a profile as possible

The tap was installed into the skirt of the vessel with nuts either side and 1/2" silicone tubing twisted onto the length of the male screws of tap and the street 90 bend. It was secured with cable ties.

HLT and Mash drain is in the middle the Boiler out to the side for whirlpooling


itsclinto

Quote from: mrmeindl on June 10, 2015, 11:53:56 PM
My main worry with the false bottom is the holes might be slightly too big on the perf plate, haven't had a good chance to check the sizes bit we're talking 3-5mm possibly from memory. If the holes are too big I'll have to go with 2 sheets bolted/welded together with a bit of an offset or possibly sheet with slits cut into it.

Hi mrmeindl.  I have the very same plan to eventually go down the route of having a bottom draining keg, except for biab.  I can eventually add a RIMs system in the long run.  I can't wait to see how you get on.  By the way, whereabouts did you source your fittings and what size did you go for?

For the false bottom, i was thinking along the same lines as a foldable bottom but with a splash guard underneath.  This means nothing will pass through.  I already use an Ikea one (cheap) folded up and it works perfect, although a little slow when clogged with hops debris.

Also, i was thinking that to protect the valve, i was gonna cut the top rim of the keg but leave the handles (http://www.homebrewtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18685&d=1293815864).  These would be welded to the bottom and should give enough room for the valve to be protected.

Quote from: Ciderhead on July 02, 2015, 07:46:29 PM
Looking good  :)
for the bergland pots I use in the base I used one of these

http://www.angelhomebrew.co.uk/en/taps-and-fittings/92-12-bsp-skin-fitting-deck-fitting.html

screwed down by one of these

http://www.angelhomebrew.co.uk/en/taps-and-fittings/81-12-bsp-90-street-elbow-male-female.html

Ciderhead just wondering if you had to use washers in between the drain and elbow or whether it was a straight screw in.  How close is the fitting to the pot at the bottom?  I was thinking the flusher i could get it the more it would be protected.  Would love to see a pic of it (if you don't mind)!

I was thinking of using a slim locking nut (http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/1-2-NPS-Slim-Flange-Locknut-Brewer-Hardware-Stainless-Steel-304-Pump-Fitting/1017341_32353911770.html) on a male part of the elbow that comes through the bottom hole.  Would that work?

molc

For my build I've ordered all my fittings from BrewPi. They are near enough the aliexpress prices and at least I trust the source of the stainless steel, unlike China. The last few bits I got from AliExpress leaked, so this way I have some comeback under EU trade laws as well.

For a camlock based system for HLT, BK and MT, I've got everything I need for about €600, including the HERMS coil, hauterhexe filter, earthed element enclosure and all the inline temperature sensors.

Then again, maybe he's getting all his parts made with a disreputable source...
Fermenting: IPA, Lambic, Mead
Conditioning: Lambic, Cider, RIS, Ole Ale, Saison
On Tap: IPA, Helles, Best Bitter

Leann ull

Quote from: itsclinto on July 03, 2015, 09:57:47 AM

Ciderhead just wondering if you had to use washers in between the drain and elbow or whether it was a straight screw in.  How close is the fitting to the pot at the bottom?  I was thinking the flusher i could get it the more it would be protected.  Would love to see a pic of it (if you don't mind)!

I was thinking of using a slim locking nut (http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/1-2-NPS-Slim-Flange-Locknut-Brewer-Hardware-Stainless-Steel-304-Pump-Fitting/1017341_32353911770.html) on a male part of the elbow that comes through the bottom hole.  Would that work?

I chopped a piece off the bottom of the screws on the deck drain just to the point that it fully screwed in and bottomed out inside the 90 Degree bend as with all I assembled with http://www.fernox.com/products/traditional+plumbing+products/jointing+compounds/ls-x+external+leak+sealer
will send pic later

Leann ull


itsclinto

Quote from: Ciderhead on July 05, 2015, 12:16:23 AM
Here you go

Thanks very much Ciderhead.  Thats what i'd be looking to do.  The pictures really help with making decisions

Leann ull

No worries happy to help as others have helped me  :)
Shortly gonna do a brew day by pictures soon and I would encourage others to do same, I get amazing tips looking at other peoples gear and how they brew.

molc

Quote from: Ciderhead on July 05, 2015, 11:30:06 PM
No worries happy to help as others have helped me  :)
Shortly gonna do a brew day by pictures soon and I would encourage others to do same, I get amazing tips looking at other peoples gear and how they brew.
Couldn't agree more. Reading Gordon Strong's new book there yesterday and he documents his brewday step by step. So many little pearls of wisdom that people take for granted.
Fermenting: IPA, Lambic, Mead
Conditioning: Lambic, Cider, RIS, Ole Ale, Saison
On Tap: IPA, Helles, Best Bitter

GlasbrewInc

Maybe look to a sheet metal punch! It's what I've used and never much trouble

Leann ull

Did you apply pressure and water/oil and real slow as otherwise you case harden what you are drilling, its a very common mistake, I used to in the early days until dempsey showed me the rhythm method :)

molc

January 22, 2016, 05:49:42 PM #13 Last Edit: January 22, 2016, 06:46:08 PM by molc
Yeah my bigger drill was the same when I had to make holes for the peco style elements. Made shit of a €5 hole saw and the holes weren't very neat, but feck it, got the job done.

You need an earthing ring with the elements, as it's still possible to become a shorter route to earth with the cables I believe.

Don't take any risks in electrics and pressurised devices kids.
Fermenting: IPA, Lambic, Mead
Conditioning: Lambic, Cider, RIS, Ole Ale, Saison
On Tap: IPA, Helles, Best Bitter

Leann ull

Ah Lads yez bit murderers :(
You need an earth lead for each element the same size or bigger than the live supply with good clean contact.
Don't tinker if you are unsure.