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NHC BJCP course 2016

Started by Partridge9, March 09, 2016, 10:10:07 PM

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Andrew

Some ideas:

Could be look to live-streaming the sessions. I'm thinking of people outside of Dublin who want to do the BJCP but can't make the trip in- If we gave them the beer list for each session, along with the course notes, they could follow online.

While I really appreciated The Black Sheep for hosting us, I did think the room was less than ideal for what we are trying to do; a little dark and a little cramped. Could we consider another venue? Shiny did mention that TOG might be a possibility but it's not in a fit state yet. I can think of a number of other places with spare space and a desire to help us out.

Are there any flavours/notes we'd like to cover this year other than the 10 standards that come with the Aroxa/FlavorActiv kits?  Currently:


  • 2,3-butanedione: "Diacetyl, like butter, or butter popcorn"
  • dimethyl sulphide: "DMS, like sweetcorn or tomato sauce"
  • ferrous sulphate: "Metallic, like ink or blood"
  • hop oil extract: "Hop oil, like hoppy ale"
  • hydrogen sulphide: "H2S, like boiled or rotten eggs"
  • isoamyl acetate: "Isoamyl acetate, like bananas or pear drops"
  • 3-methyl-2-butene-1-thiol: "Lightstruck, like a skunk or freshly-brewed coffee"
  • trans-2-nonenal: "Papery, like cardboard or oxidized beer"
  • 2,4,6-trichloroanisole: "Musty, like corked wine or a damp cellar"
  • 4-vinyl guaiacol: "Phenolic, like cloves or wheat beer"

Finally (to leave on a positive note as my TM training tells me I should always do), I think what really worked well last year was rotating the speakers between each beer/sensory session.
Andrew
@beoirfinder

pob

Additional flavours/aromas -

Acetaldehyde: "fresh cut green apples, cut grass"
Isovaleric Acid: "cheesy, old hops, sweat socks" see hop kit

a smoky, plastic phenol one would be hady, can't find one?

& for a bit of luxurious spoiling, how about the new Siebel Hop Sensory kit?

+ 1 on last years format

Andrew

We did the isovaleric and acetaldehyde at the sensory session recap. Can't remember if they were FlavorActiv or Siebel though (I was using both)
Andrew
@beoirfinder

pob

Would it be possible to do a hop tea (in a Molson or something equally mweh) session, eg noble, English, US, New World to get to see their different profiles.

Could be a separate day (bit like the sensory recap day), handy to identify characteristics of each.

molc

You can get some coors light and dose each with a dry hop in the bottle of 1-2 pellets to test out some different aromas as well. It's a great way of seeing combinations against each other.
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pob

That's what I was thinking in conjunction with the Siebel Hop kit.

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Partridge9


ManseMasher

Quote from: Andrew on March 16, 2016, 03:02:36 PM
Some ideas:

Could be look to live-streaming the sessions. I'm thinking of people outside of Dublin who want to do the BJCP but can't make the trip in- If we gave them the beer list for each session, along with the course notes, they could follow online.

While I really appreciated The Black Sheep for hosting us, I did think the room was less than ideal for what we are trying to do; a little dark and a little cramped. Could we consider another venue? Shiny did mention that TOG might be a possibility but it's not in a fit state yet. I can think of a number of other places with spare space and a desire to help us out.

Are there any flavours/notes we'd like to cover this year other than the 10 standards that come with the Aroxa/FlavorActiv kits?  Currently:


  • 2,3-butanedione: "Diacetyl, like butter, or butter popcorn"
  • dimethyl sulphide: "DMS, like sweetcorn or tomato sauce"
  • ferrous sulphate: "Metallic, like ink or blood"
  • hop oil extract: "Hop oil, like hoppy ale"
  • hydrogen sulphide: "H2S, like boiled or rotten eggs"
  • isoamyl acetate: "Isoamyl acetate, like bananas or pear drops"
  • 3-methyl-2-butene-1-thiol: "Lightstruck, like a skunk or freshly-brewed coffee"
  • trans-2-nonenal: "Papery, like cardboard or oxidized beer"
  • 2,4,6-trichloroanisole: "Musty, like corked wine or a damp cellar"
  • 4-vinyl guaiacol: "Phenolic, like cloves or wheat beer"

Finally (to leave on a positive note as my TM training tells me I should always do), I think what really worked well last year was rotating the speakers between each beer/sensory session.
If it could be live streamed I would be very interested indeed!