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Group buys vs members

Started by admin, February 06, 2013, 09:42:22 PM

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johnrm

Following up on JerryMcCs post, Inote that while there was a flurry of activity in recent months on the group buy front, this seems to have calmed down (and not a bad thing).
Might it be an idea to calendar some group buys? Past, present and future? just a list, what, how many and how much?

From a pub in Barcelona...  Bar International Beer on La Rambla

Partridge9

Quote
QuoteProposal:

€10 membership. Gets you
1. Access to the private policy-forming area of the forum (currently Internal Operations)
2. Priority over non-members in over-subscribed group buys.

Non-members can access group buys at a cost of 10% or €2 more, whichever is greater, which goes to the club.

To become a paid member you must be a forum member for 30 days or more, and have at least 1 post which is not group buy related.

Very good and simple!

Would just suggest:

1. Access to the private policy-forming area of the forum (currently Internal Operations) and also the right to vote for committe member elections and policy decisions at AGMs/EGMs/online polls and the like


Personally I have reservations with non-members participating in Group Buys at all - we are not a home-brew shop.

I dont like the idea of storing equipment of anything else for people not associated with the NHC.

I believe we can get the numbers to make group buys work without making the group buys completely public.

There are a number of reasons to keep the buys 'in club' only.
Public Group buys (even with 10% or 2 euro more) are not a good idea.

That said - I do believe we can make group buys work in house and I think they are great.  ;)

irish_goat

QuoteProposal:

€10 membership. Gets you
1. Access to the private policy-forming area of the forum (currently Internal Operations)
2. Priority over non-members in over-subscribed group buys.

Non-members can access group buys at a cost of 10% or €2 more, whichever is greater, which goes to the club.

To become a paid member you must be a forum member for 30 days or more, and have at least 1 post which is not group buy related.

This seems perfect to me.

Kevco5

Quote
QuoteProposal:

€10 membership. Gets you
1. Access to the private policy-forming area of the forum (currently Internal Operations)
2. Priority over non-members in over-subscribed group buys.

Non-members can access group buys at a cost of 10% or €2 more, whichever is greater, which goes to the club.

To become a paid member you must be a forum member for 30 days or more, and have at least 1 post which is not group buy related.

This seems perfect to me.

+1

Ciderhead

Quote
Quote
QuoteProposal:

€10 membership. Gets you
1. Access to the private policy-forming area of the forum (currently Internal Operations)
2. Priority over non-members in over-subscribed group buys.

Non-members can access group buys at a cost of 10% or €2 more, whichever is greater, which goes to the club.

To become a paid member you must be a forum member for 30 days or more, and have at least 1 post which is not group buy related.

Very good and simple!

Would just suggest:

1. Access to the private policy-forming area of the forum (currently Internal Operations) and also the right to vote for committe member elections and policy decisions at AGMs/EGMs/online polls and the like


Personally I have reservations with non-members participating in Group Buys at all - we are not a home-brew shop.

I dont like the idea of storing equipment of anything else for people not associated with the NHC.

I believe we can get the numbers to make group buys work without making the group buys completely public.

There are a number of reasons to keep the buys 'in club' only.
Public Group buys (even with 10% or 2 euro more) are not a good idea.

That said - I do believe we can make group buys work in house and I think they are great.  ;)

I have to agree with this sentiment(yeah agreeing with you Patridge, me too!)
I think membership should be compulsory takes all the other messing out of it and is a gentlemans club, now where did I put my smoking jacket and cravate

Will_D

Ye should have been at the North County "Gentlemen of Leisure" Brewing Club meeting tonight.

The oak pannelling was illuminated by the gentle flickering of the crackelling log fire ( ok the gas effect was having a problem ).

The overstuffed Chesterfields were happy(!) to recieve the rosy cheeks of the over stuffed gents who sat on them and quaffed copious quantities of self made amber nectars.

After an hour or so, some Welsh git snook into this warm, PRIVATE, cozzy area and upset them all with some home made Seabury Scrumpy UGH!

He was quickly expelled with a firm boot up the arse throught the tradesmans entrance. He was to big to fit through the Welshmans exit hole ( cat flap) 
Remember: The Nationals are just round the corner - time to get brewing

Ciderhead

Viva la revolution comrade Will

David

February 13, 2013, 10:44:26 AM #67 Last Edit: February 13, 2013, 10:50:25 AM by davmcguinness
I would agree with a membership fee for the full access to the club which would include group buys, advance notice of and possible discount to events. The main site is a great resource without the buys and is a great enticement in to full member ship. A membership of €20 a year for full membership is very reasonable and I imagine it would attract upgraded membership just to support the club.
Thanks to every involved while I think I have only posted once. Reading what has been posted by other members has really help me.

Hop Bomb

I think only paying members should have access to group buys. Post count shouldnt matter. Some people are chatty work dodgers with high post counts. Others just browse the forum. If you pay your membership then you should have an equal say no matter how many posts you have.

Its really no different to a Golf Club. Two people who are both full paying members. One plays 5 times a week & one plays 5 times a year. They've both payed their membership so both have equal rights to play the course, enter the competitions, vote on club matters etc.

If you arent in you cant win. Simple.


Keep up the good work folks! Looking forward to meeting some of you at the B&C in March.

On tap: Flanders, Gose,
Fermenting: Oatmeal Brown, 200ish Fathoms,
Ageing: bretted 1890 export stout.
To brew:  2015 RIS, Kellerbier, Altbier.

Ciderhead

February 20, 2013, 10:49:04 PM #69 Last Edit: February 20, 2013, 10:49:34 PM by Ciderhead
QuoteI think only paying members should have access to group buys. Post count shouldnt matter. Some people are chatty work dodgers with high post counts. Others just browse the forum. If you pay your membership then you should have an equal say no matter how many posts you have.

Its really no different to a Golf Club. Two people who are both full paying members. One plays 5 times a week & one plays 5 times a year. They've both payed their membership so both have equal rights to play the course, enter the competitions, vote on club matters etc.

If you arent in you cant win. Simple.



+1

newToBrew

Quote
QuoteI think only paying members should have access to group buys. Post count shouldnt matter. Some people are chatty work dodgers with high post counts. Others just browse the forum. If you pay your membership then you should have an equal say no matter how many posts you have.

Its really no different to a Golf Club. Two people who are both full paying members. One plays 5 times a week & one plays 5 times a year. They've both payed their membership so both have equal rights to play the course, enter the competitions, vote on club matters etc.

If you arent in you cant win. Simple.



+1
+1
coz theres always something new to do

johnrm

You can set the forum that non members can see but not post in the group buy section. Something to consider.

delzep

Is the 10 euro being bandied about an annual thing or a once off?

Also, out of curiosity - what did the 10 euro membership to Beoir give? I was of the thought that my 10 euro would be better off spent on a few bottles of Irish craft beer than on a website

Ciderhead


delzep

better get onto to adverts so to flog some stuff