2017 National Brewing Championships

[SlugTrap]

Just to put the Cat amongst the pigeons, could we try the following as a way to ensure that a brewer doesn't end up competing with themselves...  Any downsides?

What about the brewer who is knowingly competing against themselves by entering, say, a weiss and a dunkelweiss? To be truly equal, this points system would need to apply to brewers with more than one entry in any category, not just the merged categories.

[SlugTrap]

Yeah Kolsch V Baltic Porter is the one odd matchup

California Common is bottom fermenting...  Just saying...

Baltic Porter can use a lager yeast, too.

Common thread here is some mix of lager + ale ingredients or techniques.
2008 Guidelines called these "Hybrid Beer" so let's go with that title for this category.

(Labels are cosmetic; it's the spread of entries that matters.)

[Leann ull]

Ignore us Richard, they are good groupings 

[Hingo]

I think what you have there is fine.  There's always going to be grounds to question small details,  if you apply 80/20 rule here (80% of your time dealing with the 20% of causes) we'll be at this until the 2028 competition

And I don't mean that in a "it works for the majority,  don't mind the rest" sense,  more of a case that there might not be any issues from, but if it turns out there is, when. It happens deal with it then. 

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[mick02]

Just to put the Cat amongst the pigeons, could we try the following as a way to ensure that a brewer doesn't end up competing with themselves...  Any downsides?

What about the brewer who is knowingly competing against themselves by entering, say, a weiss and a dunkelweiss? To be truly equal, this points system would need to apply to brewers with more than one entry in any category, not just the merged categories.

They are good groupings and fair play to you guys for changing it up this year. I thought that Dr Jacoby's idea was a fair way so that brewers are not penalized if their beers are grouped together. If a brewer intentionally brewed beers that had a high likelihood of ending up in the same groupings then tough shit. Problem with this is that it's impossible to administer.

I think that the format of this years competition is well thought through. Fair play again for shaking it up this year.

[molc]

Aye good groupings and thanks for getting that information out to the membership - the transparency really helps people to understand how things are working within the competition.

[rebel]

Are results after 1st leg, going to be put up on facebook or twitter or on forum. ?

[Hingo]

Usually the forum,  but unsure if theyll wait until the final leg,  maybe get word of medal Winners IIRC from last year

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[mick02]

Are results after 1st leg, going to be put up on facebook or twitter or on forum. ?

The winners from the first leg last year knew the results of the judged categories before the second leg.

[Drzava]

Whoops. Was waiting for details of Cork drop offs...........and promptly forgot about the whole thing and never remembered to drop / ship my beer!

[Simon_]

Was it going to win?

[Drzava]

Was it going to win?

Highly unlikely!  Was just interested in feedback etc. Oh well, more beer for me!

[Leann ull]

In the interim, should we just put in the 'shipping' option for drop off etc? Can't register without picking something! I appreciate BTW that all this 'background' work takes for more effort than may realise!

Just wondering if anyone has guidance on this? Don't want to miss the boat like I did last year!

I wish I had a quid for every time Dcalnan and Johnrm mentioned it

If you hadn't paid for it it would have been deleted, if you have paid for it can you let the organisers know as otherwise they will be hunting for your bottle.

[Leann ull]

Are results after 1st leg, going to be put up on facebook or twitter or on forum. ?

Nope wasn't in previous years, Medals are awarded but full list is only published after final leg in Dublin to keep excitement going for best brewer , tbh much easier to do it at the end in any case.

[molc]

I think we knew last year on the forums before the second leg. It was nice to know on the day I have to say.