Whole grain available - interest in purchasing lot?

[Greg2013]

I have tbh given the pics of how these are being stored  and the condition of that swollen bag and the bug question i am also backing out at this stage, i don't think given what we know now that these grains are even suitable for brewing at this stage.

[johnrm]

Are they suitable for animals at this stage?

[Simon_]

Thanks to all for investigating. It could've be great.

[Hefeman]

I have updated the link with 4 additional pictures showing the state of the MO in the cold light of day, pretty horrible stuff. I can't stress how much of a difference there is between this and the wheat which has zero sign of visitors and it is as crunchy and tasty as granola. I'll send an update once I go back (likely either today or tomorrow) and if I take another bag I'll post pictures and a taste report!

[Greg2013]

I have updated the link with 4 additional pictures showing the state of the MO in the cold light of day, pretty horrible stuff. I can't stress how much of a difference there is between this and the wheat which has zero sign of visitors and it is as crunchy and tasty as granola. I'll send an update once I go back (likely either today or tomorrow) and if I take another bag I'll post pictures and a taste report!

Fair dues for trying anyway buddy,pity as it could have been great.

[Hefeman]

Hi again,

I dropped out at lunchtime and swapped out the Moris Otter bag for a clean one. This one looks/smells good and is nice and crispy. The interesting thing is that the bad bags have many tiny flies roaming around but the clean ones have absolutely none. I had a quick look around and I'd estimate somewhere between 20-50% of the stock is infected. You'd need to examine and open each bag individually to get a more accurate estimate. The sporadic infection pattern makes me inclined to think that some bags were left out in the rain and those are rotting and attracting flies. So to me it looks like it isn't due to a grain beetle feeding it's way through the stock.

I added one more picture to the same link showing the MO grains.

[cruiscinlan]

I have tbh given the pics of how these are being stored  and the condition of that swollen bag and the bug question i am also backing out at this stage, i don't think given what we know now that these grains are even suitable for brewing at this stage.

Well you pays your money and you takes your choice, I've a mate in Cork calling over and I've told him to open all the bags to check the grain.  I'll let ye know how we get on.

Aside from that is there interest in arranging a group buy from MCI?  From their website at 40 bags you get it at €15/25kg ex-VAT and delivery which would be €55 ex-VAT for a pallet delivery to Ireland.

€15/bag for 40 bags = €600/ton which seems to be a good price as its close to the wholesale price for loose grain afaik.

[cruiscinlan]

Fair dues for trying anyway buddy,pity as it could have been great.

I know you said you weren't interested but I was talking to mate there who has picked up 15 bags of grain.  He's said its easily identifiable which bags are bad as they're sort of mushy and if you've any doubts you can slice them open and check.  As as you're in the Dungarven area it'd be well worth your while to travel into Cork and check. 

The farmer himself has about 30 bags left and will throw it out if he can't get any takers for it, it'd be a shame for a third of a ton to be chucked for the sake of a few bad bags.

[johnrm]

Where is yer man based?

[Hefeman]

After rebagging 2 x 25kg bags I am happy to report that the grain appears to be in excellent quality throughout and there wasn't a single bug in either bag. I agree with what cruiscinlan says, the bad bags are easily identifiable - look for little flies walking all over the bag and dirty stitching on the inside (the thread that you cut to open the bag). If I had more of a drinking problem I would go back for more tomorrow   

[Greg2013]

Fair dues for trying anyway buddy,pity as it could have been great.

I know you said you weren't interested but I was talking to mate there who has picked up 15 bags of grain.  He's said its easily identifiable which bags are bad as they're sort of mushy and if you've any doubts you can slice them open and check.  As as you're in the Dungarven area it'd be well worth your while to travel into Cork and check. 

The farmer himself has about 30 bags left and will throw it out if he can't get any takers for it, it'd be a shame for a third of a ton to be chucked for the sake of a few bad bags.

Is there definitely Crystal Malt there as i cant see any pics of that ? Did the farmer settle on a final price per bag ?

[Hefeman]

Where is yer man based?

I'm not sure if I should give his precise location on the forum but he is 2-3 mins from Glanmire Village.

[johnrm]

I pass twice daily.
PM details, I'll give him a bell.

[Greg2013]

Fair dues for trying anyway buddy,pity as it could have been great.

I know you said you weren't interested but I was talking to mate there who has picked up 15 bags of grain.  He's said its easily identifiable which bags are bad as they're sort of mushy and if you've any doubts you can slice them open and check.  As as you're in the Dungarven area it'd be well worth your while to travel into Cork and check. 

The farmer himself has about 30 bags left and will throw it out if he can't get any takers for it, it'd be a shame for a third of a ton to be chucked for the sake of a few bad bags.

Is there definitely crystal malt there as i have not seen it in any of the pics ? Sorry about the repeat post,fecked up last one and can't delete it now. What price did the farmer settle on per bag ? 

[Hefeman]

Hi, I think there was Crystal but I can't be certain I'm afraid. I paid 10 euro a bag.